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Zsaryna Adrelana
The Phantom Regiment
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Posted - 2013.05.12 07:45:00 -
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I've got five hundred isk that says he's ex SDII
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Zsaryna Adrelana
The Phantom Regiment
THE ROYAL NAVY
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Posted - 2013.05.12 08:45:00 -
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Darius Shakor wrote:
An initial error in judgement by your government can be forgiven. Sticking to their pig-headed stance after seeing how strongly we feel about this compounds the error further and forgiveness goes by the wayside.
Overall the biggest blow to relations is not the actions of people here but the demonstration that the Gallente truely have no understanding of our culture after all these years. And if the shooter's proposed motivations are anything to go by this is clearly a deeper issue in your own back yard. But I guess it is easier to deflect it all onto us after the fleet crossed over your borders.
If you want me to say it then, yes, I agree they were stupid to do so. Though even without that the damage was being done by your government being completely obstinate. I doubt, though, you will agree. Why waste my breath further.
Funny that. I would have thought fifteen hostile dreadnoughts were pretty hard to beat as far as "blows to relations" go. After all even if the Gallente were keeping the truth tight to their chest, I would have thought that alone would not justify the deployment of Dreadnought class assets. Yes the Gallente might have been playing fast and loose with the truth but lies by themselves do not kill people. All you tribals needed to do was play a little diplomacy with the Gallente and the matter would have been over in due course, all you needed to do was understand your ally's culture in turn.
Lets not forget, before you start talking about deeper issues in people's back yards, that you may want to get your own house in order before you start commenting on other people's back yards. The scriptures talk of men without sin and casting the first stone, and the Minmatar are certainly not without sin in that regard.
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Zsaryna Adrelana
The Phantom Regiment
THE ROYAL NAVY
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Posted - 2013.05.12 10:14:00 -
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Tootenh'amon wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Tootenh'amon wrote:you believe the Republic has to be greatful enough to the Federation not to make any noise when it comes to significant issues of foreign policy. No, I believe that you can be as grateful or ungrateful as you want, but I also believe that you don't get to whine about our lack of respect for your culture after invading us. What does one have to do with the other? If you really knew our culture you'd know that our leaders won't take lightly to being slapped in the face with a big fat "no". If you really do know us, than it means you knew full well what would happen at Colelie. Then the whole incident looks like a ploy to push Republic away from the Federation, for whatever reason. I wonder what were the crew complements of the Moroses destroyed in that battle and how many Minmatar actually perished in the destruction of your fleet...
Congratulations you have just reduced the entire Minmatar race to a toddler having a tantrum. He's being told "no you cannot have your ball" and so he's hurling his toys out of the pram. The difference is that the toddler is not expected to know better and the toddler does not have control of dreadnought type assets. Everyone has to deal with being told "no" now and again, and mature reasonable people can move past that and compromise, or failing that, say "okay, but next time you want to trade with us, taxes on your imports will be higher"
Clearly we may be expecting too much of Shakor and his cabinet.
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Zsaryna Adrelana
The Phantom Regiment
THE ROYAL NAVY
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Posted - 2013.05.12 10:41:00 -
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58 dead and 304 wounded?
You call that a big deal?
I'd hate to think how big a deal you consider the loss of a capital fleet, considering most Capsuleers turn in those kind of bodycounts every time we turn around.
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Zsaryna Adrelana
The Phantom Regiment
THE ROYAL NAVY
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Posted - 2013.05.12 10:52:00 -
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Clearly.
I turned in those kind of numbers last time I farted so there we go.
Yet in response you're willing to unleash a dreadnought fleet which is over a thousand men per boat, and they all get taken out with no real return on investment?
That's got to suck hard
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Zsaryna Adrelana
The Phantom Regiment
THE ROYAL NAVY
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:21:00 -
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Sure, go for a personal attack I don't care.
But unlike some, I like to keep my jabs above the belt so I will say this.
Given the current state of the Republic, can you really afford to throw away billions of isk for fifty dead and three hundred and something wounded? I think you'll agree the answer there is no.
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